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[05:55:08] <solskogen|M> I've implemented a build bot that runs automatically now. It's far from future proof, but updates should be more regular from now on.
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[08:24:16] <gromit> solskogen|M: nice! Would you be up for a quick talk again some time soon? I'd like us to move forward with a few things and feel like we kept you hanging for a while :/
[08:42:36] <solskogen|M> I'm very ready!
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[17:47:12] <solskogen|M> Look: http://arch-linux-repo.drzee.net
[17:47:14] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux AArch64 Build Report (at arch-linux-repo.drzee.net)
[17:47:33] <solskogen|M> it's not totally realtime, but good enough for me
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[17:56:00] <gromit> solskogen|M: Nice! Did you check if any of the existing rebuilder infrastructure projects (i.e. the cachy rebuilder) could be used for this?
[17:57:23] <solskogen|M> no, I didn't. This is home made stuff :-)
[17:57:33] <solskogen|M> I just wanted something quick and dirty
[18:08:52] <gromit> solskogen|M: quick and dirty is usually hard to upstream/collaborate on though :p
[18:09:45] <solskogen|M> Sure, this is more for me (and the rest of the aarch64 team) at the moment.
[18:10:11] <solskogen|M> I mean, this is just a sqlite database
[18:11:10] <solskogen|M> btw, what IS the cachy rebuilder? :)
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[18:49:24] <filmroellchen1> hi, the mailing list just mentioned testing wanted for aarch64. i have a pi 3 that i could try migrating from alarm if there’s already a working build (even if i have to build it myself), what is the status on that?
[18:49:37] <solskogen|M> Pi3 won't do.
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[18:49:56] <solskogen|M> Pi5 is needed.
[18:50:08] <filmroellchen1> it is aarch64, so what’s the issue? (3 B+ specifically)
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[18:50:39] <solskogen|M> We had a issue earlier on (last summer) that required armv8.2-a - and ever since we've built for that.
[18:50:53] <filmroellchen> aw :(
[18:51:04] <filmroellchen> do you have a link for that?
[18:51:12] <solskogen|M> Rebuilding everything takes a hell of a lot of time. and for all we know, it might open a new can of worms.
[18:51:37] <solskogen|M> No link. But is was a issue with chromium and qt-webengine
[18:51:50] <filmroellchen> obviously, but alarm is running fine on that pi for a year now, so…
[18:51:51] <solskogen|M> And some ssl-thing. I just don't remember it.
[18:52:04] <filmroellchen> and i don’t care about gui stuff, it’s headless anyways
[18:52:06] <filmroellchen> but i understand
[18:52:06] <solskogen|M> bschnei: might have a armv8 repo somewhere, but I'm not sure how complete it is.
[18:52:10] <filmroellchen> crypto is problematic ofc
[18:52:36] <filmroellchen> bschnei: alarm does go back to armv7 :)
[18:52:47] <filmroellchen> is the requirement for upstreaming 100% core (and extra)?
[18:53:19] <filmroellchen> (the RFC says 90% up-to-date but nothing about this i think)
[18:54:05] <solskogen|M> The only thing we really miss is haskell packages
[18:54:28] <filmroellchen> oh right there’s a lot of them
[18:54:39] <solskogen|M> there's also a few x86_64 only packages (or packages that doesn't make sense on aarch64)
[18:54:51] <filmroellchen> i mean the reverse will be true too
[18:55:04] <solskogen|M> that said, haskell on x86_64 is also quite far behind.
[18:55:11] <filmroellchen> eventually m1n1 might make it into extra or core for asahi users
[18:55:31] <solskogen|M> We have our own repo for aarch64 only packages.
[18:55:51] <solskogen|M> There's also some packages that can only be cross compiled(!) from x86_64 to aarch64.
[18:56:08] <solskogen|M> I'm trying right now to get electron39 built.
[18:56:48] <filmroellchen> yeah chromium sounds like a big pain point, good luck
[18:57:24] <filmroellchen> anyways seems like the pi3 will stay on alarm forever :(
[18:57:54] <solskogen|M> ARMv7 is out of the question for us. As of now, only armv8.2-a or higher is our priority. We try to keep the number of vendor specific kernels to a minimum
[18:58:12] <filmroellchen> I wasn’t suggesting v7 FTR
[18:58:44] <filmroellchen> But given the current hardware price situation, older SBCs are common and reasonable to support nevertheless
[18:59:45] <solskogen|M> Rebuilding everything for armv8-a would take weeks. maybe more.
[19:00:01] <solskogen|M> core can be rebuilt quite quickly.
[19:00:26] <filmroellchen> but the technical challenge is mainly in some ssl stuff and chromium? did they already all drop v8-a support?
[19:00:38] <solskogen|M> but there are packages that take 16 hours to build.
[19:00:47] <filmroellchen> sounds like chromium
[19:01:05] <solskogen|M> It was, at least. I haven't tried.
[19:01:39] <solskogen|M> you have to take into account that a lot of upstream x86_64 packages don't build on x86_64 either.
[19:02:06] <solskogen|M> (that said, gromit has taken action)
[19:02:47] <solskogen|M> [solskogen@axelle ~]$ uname -a
[19:02:47] <solskogen|M> Linux axelle 7.0.0-1-rpi5+ #2 SMP PREEMPT Tue, 14 Apr 2026 18:31:49 +0000 aarch64 GNU/Linux
[19:02:47] <solskogen|M> yey!
[19:04:14] <filmroellchen> nice
[19:07:07] <linkmauve> [linkmauve@wii ~]$ uname -a
[19:07:07] <linkmauve> Linux wii 7.0.0-wii+ #244 PREEMPT Tue Apr 14 19:03:57 UTC 2026 ppc GNU/Linux
[19:07:07] <linkmauve> :)
[19:07:47] <filmroellchen> kleines@turing:~$ uname -a
[19:07:47] <filmroellchen> Linux turing 6.6.20 #1 SMP Thu Feb 13 00:11:34 HST 2025 riscv64 GNU/Linux
[19:07:52] <filmroellchen> the best i can do :P
[19:08:52] <filmroellchen> speaking of which, looking forward to RISC-V but there’s even less effort around that here it seems
[19:09:35] <solskogen|M> I wouldn't say that: felixonmars has been quite busy: https://github.com
[19:09:37] <phrik> Title: GitHub - felixonmars/archriscv-packages: Modified Arch Linux packages for archriscv · GitHub (at github.com)
[19:11:30] <filmroellchen> I know of that, but he’s the single maintainer of that effort, I haven’t tried it on my Framework ROMA II board (StarFive JH7110), and it didn’t seem like there was an upstreaming effort last time I checked
[19:12:26] <solskogen|M> I'm all for it. Many of the patches there helped aarch64.
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[23:47:29] <Charon77> I heard there's a matrix server for talking about arm efforts from drzee.net, can anyone point me out?
[23:48:01] <stickynotememo> what is drzee exactly?
[23:48:10] <stickynotememo> is it the de facto official server for alarm?
[23:49:53] <Charon77> de facto, not official yet but talks are happening
[23:49:54] <Charon77> https://lists.archlinux.org
[23:49:55] <phrik> Title: Bring ARM into the fold? - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org (at lists.archlinux.org)
[23:57:02] <stickynotememo> by talks i assume you mean the email chain
[23:57:12] <stickynotememo> yeah im in that